NEW BAYOUSHOOTER SNOW FLAKES, melting fast lol

[thperez1972]

I’m sure a few would love to vote to ban me!!!! lol

Thankfully only a few people have votes that matter, so I think you're good

Maybe he is...maybe he isn't.

Oh, wait, I have to use my new powers for good. Never mind, he's good.

 

[Bigchillin83]

Seems as if there’s another wave of them….

 

[Jstudz220]

Seems as if there’s another wave of them….

Yes definitely so

 

[Bigchillin83]

Groundhogs must have seen his shadow, more winter snowflakes comming lol

 

[Bigchillin83]

all these snow flakes are a prime example of whats wrong with this country now, sadly they are of voting age and dont contribute to society, nor understand basic common courtesy or what it means to give a mans word...

Hang on fellas this is the new world order and only the tip of the ice burg of how trashy, lazy, disrespectful and distrustful some of them will be...

 

[Tonyaav]

I feel left out. I need to list something and get to “ bumping” … get myself some dm action.

Edit note- been busy , seems this comment would work on several recent threads. Ha.

 

[Magdump]

I'm saying its goofy about a sealed box. They always read SN off the firearm, as I stated above. Sometimes I wonder about ole Mag.

I got to spell everything out for you…
Anyone privately selling a boxed gun is a used gun as far as I’m concerned, unless the box hasn’t been opened. I’ll leave it at that.
Lots of people explain in the ad, “NIB” or NEW IN BOX” and you pull the gun out and see how clean it is then open the slide or bolt and see a nice layer of brass on the bolt face….”but it’s never been fired”.
And no, testing at the factory won’t leave that much evidence, thank you very much.

Even if someone does have a gun that they bought new and never took it out of the box, I’m not paying new retail unless I can’t find one anywhere else and just have to have it, which has yet to happen.

 

[John_]

My general rule of thumb is, if the seal on the box is open, the gun is used.

Here is a refresher of what you stated, in case you forgot already. I have never seen a new handgun "in the box" sealed. Kurt mentioned a paper tag on some Glock pistols as delivered to an FFL.

I cannot recall any new pistol I purchased having a sealed box. Ditto the last new rifle I purchased. A Tikka 22 bolt action.
So you can try to blame this on me, or walk it back, but your previous statement is false.
Other members commented here on no "box seal" too.

 

[Jstudz220]

I got to spell everything out for you…
Anyone privately selling a boxed gun is a used gun as far as I’m concerned, unless the box hasn’t been opened. I’ll leave it at that.
Lots of people explain in the ad, “NIB” or NEW IN BOX” and you pull the gun out and see how clean it is then open the slide or bolt and see a nice layer of brass on the bolt face….”but it’s never been fired”.
And no, testing at the factory won’t leave that much evidence, thank you very much.

Even if someone does have a gun that they bought new and never took it out of the box, I’m not paying new retail unless I can’t find one anywhere else and just have to have it, which has yet to happen.

You’re arguing with a disgruntled old man. This is the same guy that was mind blow a couple days ago that store policy isn’t state law and went back and forth with several members and mods before getting put in his place. What does John do? Say a couple mean things to folks that make him feel better and then avoid that thread like the plague. Typical John behavior we’ve all come to tolerate and get a chuckle at his expense from time to time.

 

[John_]

You’re arguing with a disgruntled old man. This is the same guy that was mind blow a couple days ago that store policy isn’t state law and went back and forth with several members and mods before getting put in his place. What does John do? Say a couple mean things to folks that make him feel better and then avoid that thread like the plague. Typical John behavior we’ve all come to tolerate and get a chuckle at his expense from time to time.

Re-read this thread. Nobody here confirmed what Mag stated about a sealed box for a new firearm. Not a single soul. Educate yourself. Now you are jumping in here because you're still butt hurt from the other thread. Just let it go, get over it, lol.

 

[thperez1972]

My general rule of thumb is, if the seal on the box is open, the gun is used.

Here is a refresher of what you stated, in case you forgot already. I have never seen a new handgun "in the box" sealed. Kurt mentioned a paper tag on some Glock pistols as delivered to an FFL.

I cannot recall any new pistol I purchased having a sealed box. Ditto the last new rifle I purchased. A Tikka 22 bolt action.
So you can try to blame this on me, or walk it back, but your previous statement is false.
Other members commented here on no "box seal" too.

I could be mistaken but I believe you're actually making his point. As a general rule, he will not pay retail prices for a weapon unless it comes from a retail store because a weapon being resold by a consumer is used, regardless of if it has ever been shot or not. The fact that you and others have never seen a sealed box means you and others have never seen a "new" weapon in the hands of consumers. It's a similar concept as a car. Generally speaking, the average car loses value when you drive it from the lot because it goes from new to used. His opinion is it's the same for guns.

 

[Xeon64]

These are not snowflakes. Government agents and bots.

 

[AustinBR]

These are not snowflakes. Government agents and bots.

Nah man

 

[Gator 45/70]

I got to spell everything out for you…
Anyone privately selling a boxed gun is a used gun as far as I’m concerned, unless the box hasn’t been opened. I’ll leave it at that.
Lots of people explain in the ad, “NIB” or NEW IN BOX” and you pull the gun out and see how clean it is then open the slide or bolt and see a nice layer of brass on the bolt face….”but it’s never been fired”.
And no, testing at the factory won’t leave that much evidence, thank you very much.

Even if someone does have a gun that they bought new and never took it out of the box, I’m not paying new retail unless I can’t find one anywhere else and just have to have it, which has yet to happen.

New ones I've seen have the bolt or chamber tie-wrapped or a plastic red/yellow empty chamber indicator installed, But what would I know?

 

[thperez1972]

New ones I've seen have the bolt or chamber tie-wrapped or a plastic red/yellow empty chamber indicator installed, But what would I know?

Personally, I don't care if the box is sealed or not sealed, if the bolt or chamber has a tie-wrap or not, if there's a chamber flag or not. If someone isn't an authorized reseller, I'm buying a used gun. LNIB...like means similar to but not the same. So if it's similar to but not new, it's used.

 

[thperez1972]

I thought this was kinda entertaining so I guess I will share it here because it's about marketplace behavior. I have a couple of ads up. In one, I itemize some, but not all, of the parts, list the lowest price I could find (which could be lower than I actually paid), knock off 20% for being used, then round down to an even $500. Leaving parts off means I could have valued the gun higher. Listing the cheapest price instead of what I paid for the parts means I could have valued the gun higher. Acknowledging the gun is used rather than LNIB means I could have valued the gun higher. Rounding down meand I could have valued the gun higher. The ad even said I would entertain a lower bid if someone would explain why my asking price is unreasonable.

So I got a pm from someone asking if I'd "meet in the 400$ range." I felt it was appropriate to let him know "I'd much prefer meeting around $550." He read it almost immediately. I guess he didn't appreciate my reply because he didn't respond.

 

[Magdump]

Here is a refresher of what you stated, in case you forgot already. I have never seen a new handgun "in the box" sealed. Kurt mentioned a paper tag on some Glock pistols as delivered to an FFL.

I cannot recall any new pistol I purchased having a sealed box. Ditto the last new rifle I purchased. A Tikka 22 bolt action.
So you can try to blame this on me, or walk it back, but your previous statement is false.
Other members commented here on no "box seal" too.

Dammit John. I’ve enjoyed your company in person from time to time, but I believe you could find a way to argue with a tree on this site. Nobody’s blaming you for squat. I’m just annoyed that I had to clarify such a simple statement that was about nothing more than my personal preference on buying a gun. If you wanna turn this into a pissing match, you’re welcome to p:ss on old boy, but don’t count on me to join you. Have a nice day.

 

[Magdump]

Personally, I don't care if the box is sealed or not sealed, if the bolt or chamber has a tie-wrap or not, if there's a chamber flag or not. If someone isn't an authorized reseller, I'm buying a used gun. LNIB...like means similar to but not the same. So if it's similar to but not new, it's used.

This is exactly what I must have failed to convey to a few folks. If it were a car, I wouldn’t even have to say it.

 

[JBP55]

The word "used" can have different meanings depending on the context. Here are some definitions of the word "used"1234:

• Previously used or owned; secondhand.
• Showing wear or being worn out.
• Employed for a purpose; utilized.
• Shows that a particular thing always happened or was true in the past, especially if it no longer happens or is no longer true.
• Having been used before.
• Being in the habit or custom.

 

[Gator 45/70]

Personally, I don't care if the box is sealed or not sealed, if the bolt or chamber has a tie-wrap or not, if there's a chamber flag or not. If someone isn't an authorized reseller, I'm buying a used gun. LNIB...like means similar to but not the same. So if it's similar to but not new, it's used.

Yes well we do have a certain reputation to up-hold on this forum.
That would be buying something and finger farting around with it for a few weeks then listing it
LNITB and wanting 100 bucks more than the retail?
Am I wrong?