Non violent felon gun right restoration

[trigger643]

I don't think anyone said they're perfect. I'm not a felon, but I'm far from perfect.

JR1572

Not claiming to be perfect, either. We all make mistakes.

Some mistakes that are made have consequences and some of those consequences are severe with no amount of contrition mitigating the sentence.

It is not for me to pass judgement -- for that has already been done. Nor am I inclined to grant clemency, for that is not my right.

 

[GunRelated]

I don't think anyone said they're perfect. I'm not a felon, but I'm far from perfect.

JR1572

I also didn't see you moaning about how felons are given the opportunity to obtain there rights back after a certain period of time once they have committed crimes and paid for those bad choices they made.

 

[GunRelated]

Not claiming to be perfect, either. We all make mistakes.

Some mistakes that are made have consequences and some of those consequences are severe with no amount of contrition mitigating the sentence.

It is not for me to pass judgement -- for that has already been done. Nor am I inclined to grant clemency, for that is not my right.

Then you may want to make a better choice of words when responding to such questions regarding this topic and the people that fall under it.

 

[JR1572]

I also didn't see you moaning about how felons are given the opportunity to obtain there rights back after a certain period of time once they have committed crimes and paid for those bad choices they made.

Excuse me? If the laws in place allow people to own firearms after they have satisfied their sentencing, I have no problem with that. People can change.

What point are you trying to make? Just because the law says a convicted felon can own a firearm again doesn't mean I have to hang out with them. News flash: I know many people with no criminal record that I don't hang out with because I think they're morons. Just like there are people on this forum that I will not sell a firearm to because I think they're morons.

JR1572

 

[GunRelated]

Excuse me? If the laws in place allow people to own firearms after they have satisfied their sentencing, I have no problem with that. People can change.

What point are you trying to make? Just because the law says a convicted felon can own a firearm again doesn't mean I have to hang out with them. News flash: I know many people with no criminal record that I don't hang out with because I think they're morons. Just like there are people on this forum that I will not sell a firearm to because I think they're morons.

JR1572

That comment wasn't condemning you. I think you took it the wrong way.

Basically, I was saying that I wasn't directing the "perfect" comment at you, nor any other post I have made in this thread.

 

[MOTOR51]

Then you may want to make a better choice of words when responding to such questions regarding this topic and the people that fall under it.

I'm confused as to why you are so offended. I think if you make a decision that gets you convicted of a felony then you are a felon. If that keeps you from having a gun then oh well. The felony that was committed was probably not victimless, I think they should have a say so also.


MOTOR51

 

[thatguy]

Who hasn't commited THIS felony? But only on their birthday or father's day.
http://legis.la.gov/lss/lss.asp?doc=78695

 

[GunRelated]

I'm confused as to why you are so offended. I think if you make a decision that gets you convicted of a felony then you are a felon. If that keeps you from having a gun then oh well. The felony that was committed was probably not victimless, I think they should have a say so also.


MOTOR51

I'll make it clear now that I live my life based on good morals. If I make a bad choice, it wont involve another party. I have no pity for violent people, thieves, or sex offenders. However, to just label every felon as scum that does not deserve a chance to obtain there rights back in order to live a normal life just like everyone else is just childish. If, yes I am using the if word, we were talking about someone close to you, would you condemn them the same way? Sure, we might think they 'should' have made better choices, but that does not constitute for treating them like a disease or like they are a wild animal that has no learning capabilities. People, well some people, learn from their mistakes which is why I believe a 2nd chance is in line.

I had already made my point earlier, and its hard keep hitting on it without being redundant. To answer your confusion, I was offended at the fact that people are given a chance to obtain their rights back being 'unfortunate'.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

Who hasn't commited THIS felony? But only on their birthday or father's day.
http://legis.la.gov/lss/lss.asp?doc=78695

You and your father must be REALLLLY close.

 

[GunRelated]

Who hasn't commited THIS felony? But only on their birthday or father's day.
http://legis.la.gov/lss/lss.asp?doc=78695

Sodomy, its a felony waiting to happen.

 

[MOTOR51]

I'll make it clear now that I live my life based on good morals. If I make a bad choice, it wont involve another party. I have no pity for violent people, thieves, or sex offenders. However, to just label every felon as scum that does not deserve a chance to obtain there rights back in order to live a normal life just like everyone else is just childish. If, yes I am using the if word, we were talking about someone close to you, would you condemn them the same way? Sure, we might think they 'should' have made better choices, but that does not constitute for treating them like a disease or like they are a wild animal that has no learning capabilities. People, well some people, learn from their mistakes which is why I believe a 2nd chance is in line.

I had already made my point earlier, and its hard keep hitting on it without being redundant. To answer your confusion, I was offended at the fact that people are given a chance to obtain their rights back being 'unfortunate'.

I have several close family members who are felons and they are not allowed at my house and I do not associate with them at all. We use to be close but they chose to be criminals. Please don't assume that I have different standards for family and friends.


MOTOR51

 

[GunRelated]

I have several close family members who are felons and they are not allowed at my house and I do not associate with them at all. We use to be close but they chose to be criminals. Please don't assume that I have different standards for family and friends.


MOTOR51

Understandable. I feel pretty much the same, in a general sense. Now, say in 5 or 10 years, those family members have made a complete turn around in their lives and are in no way engaged in criminal activity, and live a productive normal life; will you still look at them in the manner, will you still not allow them in your home?

 

[mcinfantry]

What about someone who has need been convicted? Would you judge them on here say? Or is that fair?


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[Jack]

Who hasn't commited THIS felony? But only on their birthday or father's day.
http://legis.la.gov/lss/lss.asp?doc=78695

Except that law is unconstitutional.

 

[JR1572]

Except that law is unconstitutional.

Jack, don't tell them that. They all want to think they're badasses by believing that they're committing undetectable felonies.

JR1572

 

[Jack]

Jack, don't tell them that. They all want to think they're badasses by believing that they're committing undetectable felonies.

JR1572

Their wives already tell them they're undetectable....

 

[Dishonored]

Their wives already tell them they're undetectable....

That could be taken in more ways than one. Lmao
Criminals must be compensating for something.