Violence Forces Closing of Parkland Along Mexico Border to Americans

[Paintball]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/16/closes-park-land-mexico-border-americans/

About 3,500 acres of southern Arizona have been closed off to U.S. citizens due to increased violence at the U.S.-Mexico border, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

National Guard deployment is long overdue.

 

[oleheat]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/16/closes-park-land-mexico-border-americans/

About 3,500 acres of southern Arizona have been closed off to U.S. citizens due to increased violence at the U.S.-Mexico border, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

National Guard deployment is long overdue.

This is sounding more & more like a job for the former Blackwater guys....

 

[DAVE_M]

I would much rather my tax dollars go to blackwater snipers in little birds patrolling the border than those idiots trying to build that crap border fence.

 

[oleheat]

I would much rather my tax dollars go to blackwater snipers in little birds patrolling the border than those idiots trying to build that crap border fence.

Me too. The sniper idea has TEETH. A .308 caliber, one-way ticket to that big cartel in the sky....

 

[Paintball]

Me too. The sniper idea has TEETH. A .308 caliber, one-way ticket to that big cartel in the sky....

agreed.

 

[jimdana1942]

I imagine it won't be long until the entire south western U.S. will be closed because it will soon belong to Mexico and violence will be the rule.

 

[Gus McCrae]

I would much rather my tax dollars go to blackwater snipers in little birds patrolling the border than those idiots trying to build that crap border fence.

I'm not sure indiscriminate killing of those crossing is really the right way to do things.

 

[oleheat]

I'm not sure indiscriminate killing of those crossing is really the right way to do things.

You're so right. Univision-Grade hot chicks get a free pass.

Seriously- nobody said anything about "indiscriminate killing". I happen to believe that it is perfectly appropriate to eliminate the threat that our border agents, ranchers, residents, and LEOs are dealing with. The bastards causing the violence are rough- but if we really want to we can provide personnel that are a whole lot rougher- with much better toys at their disposal.
But will we? That's the question....

 

[Storm52]

Won't need to take out more than a handful before the message reaches the masses.

 

[DAVE_M]

I'm not sure indiscriminate killing of those crossing is really the right way to do things.

Please do tell me... What is your opinion on the "the right thing to do?"

 

[FD807]

Sounds like a good time for a road trip

 

[Paintball]

I'm not sure indiscriminate killing of those crossing is really the right way to do things.

An armed illegal or drug smuggler is an enemy and a clear and present danger. I have no problem with him eating a .308 or any other round. Now for those just trying to cross for a better life...they can go back and knock on the front door. I'm not for indiscriminate killing either, but this is a war despite the PC spin and posturing of politicians that only care about elections. It’s now more than ever time to move an armed force to protect our border. There should never be a foreign occupation allowed on United States soil without a fight.

 

[Gus McCrae]

An armed illegal or drug smuggler is an enemy and a clear and present danger. I have no problem with him eating a .308 or any other round. Now for those just trying to cross for a better life...they can go back and knock on the front door. I'm not for indiscriminate killing either, but this is a war despite the PC spin and posturing of politicians that only care about elections. It’s now more than ever time to move an armed force to protect our border. There should never be a foreign occupation allowed on United States soil without a fight.

I don't have a problem with using military force to secure the border. My thought was placing snipers on the border to control who comes in and out might not be the right thing to do. Support for dealing with armed smugglers vs. border control are different things.

 

[Paintball]

I don't have a problem with using military force to secure the border. My thought was placing snipers on the border to control who comes in and out might not be the right thing to do. Support for dealing with armed smugglers vs. border control are different things.

I agree.

 

[Akajun]

I don't have a problem with using military force to secure the border. My thought was placing snipers on the border to control who comes in and out might not be the right thing to do. Support for dealing with armed smugglers vs. border control are different things.

If snipers, drones, and helicopters with Infrared in A'stan and Iraq can identify civillians from the insurgents who are carrying weapons, bombs, and even wanted men from facial recognition software, we can do it on the border.

A life is a life, if its good enough to do it there, its good enough to do it here.

 

[Gus McCrae]

If snipers, drones, and helicopters with Infrared in A'stan and Iraq can identify civillians from the insurgents who are carrying weapons, bombs, and even wanted men from facial recognition software, we can do it on the border.

A life is a life, if its good enough to do it there, its good enough to do it here.

Maybe I'm not clear enough in my previous statements:

Sniper as a support role is fine, shooting violent criminals who would rather fight than surrender is fine.... Controling the border by shooting those who cross is not.

 

[Paintball]

If snipers, drones, and helicopters with Infrared in A'stan and Iraq can identify civillians from the insurgents who are carrying weapons, bombs, and even wanted men from facial recognition software, we can do it on the border.

A life is a life, if its good enough to do it there, its good enough to do it here.

You are correct our military (National Guard) is the best solution for securing our borders by helping the border patrol and removing all threats. Our soldiers are not indiscriminate. Border patrol can round up all unarmed illegal’s after the armed ones are eliminated.

 

[Akajun]

Maybe I'm not clear enough in my previous statements:

Sniper as a support role is fine, shooting violent criminals who would rather fight than surrender is fine.... Controling the border by shooting those who cross is not.

Walking across an International border with a weapon, Their intent to fight is pretty clear. Not clear enough for ya, do it like the coast guard, fire a shot accross the bow, yell at them on the loadspeaker to give up, if not, open fire.

 

[oleheat]

So, does anyone have any questions as to why AZ has eased some of it's gun laws lately? It's not just because it's the right way to treat free citizens, folks....
Whether our gov't wants to admit it or not- when armed, foreign individuals penetrate your border with bad intentions, that is called an invasion. The majority of residents in border-country AZ do not have 24 hour security lying around ( a-la Rosie O'Donnell), and they are on their own.
I hope it does not take a mass killing of American citizens to force the feds off their asses and do what's needed......

 

[XD-GEM]

The governors of the border states would be well within their authority to deploy their National Guard for this purpose. They would also be within their authority to call out the militia to do it; but I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that they haven't a clue how to do that.