Why we need to get out

[Vermiform]

I believe 90% of this to be true:

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Don't read this if you like sleeping at night.

 

[Manimal]

Our financial system is beyond fixable at this point.

I'm hoping the SHTF.

 

[Vermiform]

I fear it.

 

[scubasteve]

Anthing can be fixed, just depends on how well ya wanna fix it.

 

[SimonJester308]

What like one day no more oil. Had it yesterday, but not today? It will be a gradual change, may not even be in our lifetime, but our kids will see the change. Ever notice the oil companies calling themselves energy companies? BP is investing oodles of money into alternative energy sources, thats just one of them, they all want to keep making money and they know just how much oil is left, so it will peak, and then start to go downhill from there. But the sky wont be falling. Just an opinion. New technologies will come online when the money starts to run out on oil

 

[Vermiform]

What like one day no more oil. Had it yesterday, but not today? It will be a gradual change, may not even be in our lifetime, but our kids will see the change.

Take some time and read that link, that is pretty much what they are saying, but on a little faster time table. We are behind the curve on changing over, pretty much due to corporate greed and almost certainly unable to catch up, again pretty much due to corporate greed. Ethanol is a pipe dream. There are two divisions of "Peak Oil Believers". Most of us optimists believe it will be a life disrupting change that will eventually sort itself out in a year or two. Then there are Peak Oil "Doomers" that believe everything will go "Mad Max - Thunderdome" and not recover. I believe everything will recover and may not even take a full year to get basic social services back online. But I think it is going to get nasty in the big cities for a little while.

Yeah yeah, I remembered to put my tin foil hat on.......kiss my ass........

 

[Manimal]

Ethanol would be a double whammy...

Use food to make fuel, use fuel to sell fuel, use fuel to buy food that is challenged in demand by fuel...

Sounds like some expensive **** to me!

 

[SimonJester308]

I happen to be a proud wearer of the tinfoil beanie thank you very much, I just think oil production wont spike, it will be a gradual taper. Im more concerned with the North American Union, the Reconquistas, growing number of Gangs spilling over into small town America, and the crystal meth epidemic. Theres a whole mess of violent trash thats breeding like cockroaches, and eating this country up like termites. Thats what I think will cause the batshit to hit the fan, not the eventual loss of oil.

 

[CajunTim]

You know why Exxon and the other industry leaders have record profits every quater? Because that is their goal and mission. They owe nothing to no one except their investors. They do what is most profitable and spending more money to make more gasoline just so the price goes down for consumers is out of the question. You have to remember evrything is always about the bottom line when dealing with corporations.

The problem is nobody currently seekng the White House have the ideals to turn this country around. Plan for a tough next 8 years and hope somebody that maybe in four years we have a chance.

 

[SimonJester308]

I think Ron Paul has some pretty good ideals