4th of July DUI Checkpoint Video
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Man, see, this is why i hadn't responded for so long, b/c a lot of you are incapable of making responses that aren't filled with strawmen statements...it gets old, and I don't want to chase your comments around to keep the conversation going.
I don't mind them so much, but IMO they seem to be potential lawyer bombs for departments at what seems to be very little benefit.
High Risk > Low Reward type situation. I say that b/c I simply can't find anything solid showing that the check points do anything to curb alcohol-related Vehicle crashes or deaths.
Not even the LEO's we have here have much to say about it.
I asked a Deputy friend of mine last night and he said they don't set them up often, but when they do it's a drag really b/c they rarely if ever catch a Drunk Driver.
So that's why to me it seems high risk, low reward.
Seems like staking out a Bar would be better? I have no LEO experience to speak on that, but I know in Ruston they do that all the time. They park right inside City Limits and pull behind people leaving the outside clubs after 0200.
Seemed to work pretty good oddly enough.
High Risk > Low Reward type situation. I say that b/c I simply can't find anything solid showing that the check points do anything to curb alcohol-related Vehicle crashes or deaths.
Not even the LEO's we have here have much to say about it.
I asked a Deputy friend of mine last night and he said they don't set them up often, but when they do it's a drag really b/c they rarely if ever catch a Drunk Driver.
So that's why to me it seems high risk, low reward.
Seems like staking out a Bar would be better? I have no LEO experience to speak on that, but I know in Ruston they do that all the time. They park right inside City Limits and pull behind people leaving the outside clubs after 0200.
Seemed to work pretty good oddly enough.
IIRC they got their hands slapped for "entrapment" or some ****, by setting up outside bars. Maybe just here in Lafayette. I don't know if "entrapment" is right, but I remember reading newspaper drama about their locations being "wrong".
It's fukcing stupid. If they're legal, I don't see how they're legal in one public street and not another... if they're going to do it, let them put them on the main street heading out of the strip of bars. Let them set up around a sharp corner of Jefferson Street in Lafayette or something. There's no reason you have to give them a 'sporting chance' to get away or something... that's fukcing stupid.
It's fukcing stupid. If they're legal, I don't see how they're legal in one public street and not another... if they're going to do it, let them put them on the main street heading out of the strip of bars. Let them set up around a sharp corner of Jefferson Street in Lafayette or something. There's no reason you have to give them a 'sporting chance' to get away or something... that's fukcing stupid.
It seems like many agree(tho some can't see it) that the check point themselves are questionable and possible rights violating, how ever there are those that think the poor guy given the job of working that detail is the way to prove it/fix it as opposed to attacking the politicians that has put us all in this position.
Taking a swipe at the tail of a snake does nothing to prevent it from biting you.
Taking a swipe at the tail of a snake does nothing to prevent it from biting you.
The Cleveland cops I grew up with would of politely taken him out of the car and beat the $hit out of him. There would of been no video recorder found. He would of spent the night in the second precinct on a steel cot in a cell that smelled like a urinal with vomit all over the floor. If he was lucky, he may of gotten his car back only slightly damaged and not by some dog scratching it. I guess I grew up in a time that you always respected the cops unless you wanted your a$$ kicked. That's why I always say "Yes Sir" and "whatever you want Officer".
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I guess you grew up in a time where people regularly had their civil rights violated.
I won't throw out his Credentials/Area but we are pretty much in the Bible Belt of the State
I also don't think just b/c THEY'RE check points don't catch folks that other Parishes won't either. I was just giveing an example. Like I said, I can't find any evidence that they seem to be worth the struggle? I guess is a good word?
I won't throw out his Credentials/Area but we are pretty much in the Bible Belt of the State
I also don't think just b/c THEY'RE check points don't catch folks that other Parishes won't either. I was just giveing an example. Like I said, I can't find any evidence that they seem to be worth the struggle? I guess is a good word?
I live in a small City in a rural area that does not have a bar and they are quite effective here.
He did.
And believe it or not, if you think cops are so out of control now, you should have been alive in the 50's and 60's.
You didn't go to jail many times, you just got the **** kicked out of you.
There weren't any tazers, you got a night stick upside your head until you complied. I know of one now deceased officer from this area who BENT the barrel of an S&W revolver on a dude's head, and this wasn't a tall tale.
So yeah, on occasion, people do have their rights violated, but its NOTHING compared to the way things USED to be. And you know America is so horrible and so forth, go pull these same stunts on the police in Mexico or some other Central American country or Eastern Europe or the Middle East and see how it turns out for you.
I won't throw out his Credentials/Area but we are pretty much in the Bible Belt of the State
LOL, I'm pretty positive I know exactly where. Bout 45 minutes from Lc?
I was around in the 50's and 60's and Leadfoot is correct. A very common phrase in New Orleans was " Up Against the Wall M F" and if you did not comply immediately you would receive a night stick on your head. No 15 minute video or discussion, comply immediately or receive a beat down.
I heard tales of CPD in the '40s that would roust the stew-bums out of alleys and apartment stoups and if they ever got out of line*CRACK* nightstick discipline. In those days, how else would you get a rowdy, lawless group to respect the badge? One guy walking a beat, six bullets in revolver, no gun restrictions(mail-order firearms were common.) and the only radio was a callbox on every other corner. When it came to compliance, you didn't play. If you were meek you didn't walk 3rd shift patrol.
If I was to pick a City that best represents the USA Cleveland would definitely be high on my list...
They even have an awesome theme song.
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