4th of July DUI Checkpoint Video

[Coonie]

I think the Open Carry and confront LEO crowd has bled into our general public forum, it's cool to start **** with the same guys you call frantically when you need help.

I think it's easier for these "camera everywhere" types to confront LE, because cops have a job to do and people to answer to and don't hand out the beat down like every cop-basher describes. Everyone complains for the inconvenience, but look at your own job. If you only dealt with asshats, drunks and honest citizens who just haven't been caught yet, you'd quit today. These guys deal with everybody else's tragedy, trauma and loss and hope they can forget it (inhumane behavior & carnage.) in a week. The big brave open carry guy wants confrontation, and I think he should look more toward the inner cities where there are higher numbers of shootings. His display of open firearms will make the area more "polite" right?

The camera jockey driving through checkpoints should drive through the ghetto to get his point across. Those neighborhoods take away a motorist's rights by making it unsafe to drive freely anywhere you want. You have a right to drive through the worst part of any town In the U.S. so go prove your standing up for your rights by rolling through the hood with your camera on and see if you want to stop and declare your constitutional rights to be there.

Then, maybe LEO won't seem so bad knocking on your window.

 

[I_FLY_LOW]

I think it's easier for these "camera everywhere" types to confront LE, because cops have a job to do and people to answer to and don't hand out the beat down like every cop-basher describes. Everyone complains for the inconvenience, but look at your own job. If you only dealt with asshats, drunks and honest citizens who just haven't been caught yet, you'd quit today. These guys deal with everybody else's tragedy, trauma and loss and hope they can forget it (inhumane behavior & carnage.) in a week. The big brave open carry guy wants confrontation, and I think he should look more toward the inner cities where there are higher numbers of shootings. His display of open firearms will make the area more "polite" right?

The camera jockey driving through checkpoints should drive through the ghetto to get his point across. Those neighborhoods take away a motorist's rights by making it unsafe to drive freely anywhere you want. You have a right to drive through the worst part of any town In the U.S. so go prove your standing up for your rights by rolling through the hood with your camera on and see if you want to stop and declare your constitutional rights to be there.

Then, maybe LEO won't seem so bad knocking on your window.

Good points.

 

[JNieman]

So the tl;dr of that is "It's better than being shot or beaten so suck it up." ?

 

[doc ace]

I think it's easier for these "camera everywhere" types to confront LE, because cops have a job to do and people to answer to and don't hand out the beat down like every cop-basher describes. Everyone complains for the inconvenience, but look at your own job. If you only dealt with asshats, drunks and honest citizens who just haven't been caught yet, you'd quit today. These guys deal with everybody else's tragedy, trauma and loss and hope they can forget it (inhumane behavior & carnage.) in a week. The big brave open carry guy wants confrontation, and I think he should look more toward the inner cities where there are higher numbers of shootings. His display of open firearms will make the area more "polite" right?

The camera jockey driving through checkpoints should drive through the ghetto to get his point across. Those neighborhoods take away a motorist's rights by making it unsafe to drive freely anywhere you want. You have a right to drive through the worst part of any town In the U.S. so go prove your standing up for your rights by rolling through the hood with your camera on and see if you want to stop and declare your constitutional rights to be there.

Then, maybe LEO won't seem so bad knocking on your window.

Bravo sir. Well said.

 

[oleheat]

$hit, guys- who doesn't have a camera on them, these days?


Not everyone uses them for Cop Trolling, though.


You know- kind of like open carry.

 

[Coonie]

Bravo sir. Well said.

Just adding my .02 on the point you were making.

 

[Emperor]

There is a lot of loose change on the floor in here.

I am miffed that the focal points of the debate are watered down to emotion; and snide sounding personal attacks.

Pick and Choose Liberty is not cool! Having someone choose for you is worse!

 

[oleheat]

I am miffed that the focal points of the debate are watered down to emotion; and snide sounding personal attacks.

See- that's what makes you who you are, Emp: A keen sense of sarcasm.

 

[SVT]

Update

UPDATE: TheBlaze has corrected that neither Axl David nor Kalbaugh have said his confrontation with the police officer was planned. David emailed TheBlaze saying too that Kalbaugh had never called it a *crash the checkpoint party.* TheBlaze had reported based on an article from the Daily News Journal that David had spoken with Kalbaugh about planning the confrontation to *exercise his rights.*

 

[Dishonored]

Another one raises it's head!




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It's like the hedgehog game at the arcade except I don't have the option to slam their head back down. Lol
It would be fun.

 

[Emperor]

Update

Shouldn't these so called "journalists" be doing their own research, or are they going to give me eternal ammunition to state how pathetic and phony they are?

I don't know how much more I could despise them without having an aneurism.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Update

Well the The Blaze reports it it may be fact!

 

[freedive10]

My last two cents on this topic. For those readers who are looking for solid info regarding your rights, PLEASE DONT take what you read on here (internet) as sound advice! I suggest you check out WESTLAW and/or LEXIS and read some of the case law. Please keep in mind that the time to make your case is in the court room, NOT the street! If you feel strongly about an incident you are / were involved in, be prepared to spend time and some money. But for GODS SAKE, please educate yourself with legitimate and up to date case law before giving people advise. You will find out that it is not black and white!

 

[Bayoupiper]

So the tl;dr of that is "It's better than being shot or beaten so suck it up." ?

You've said some crazy **** before.

Are you trying to go for a new record?





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[JNieman]

You've said some crazy **** before.

Are you trying to go for a new record?
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Just trying to cut through the BS and figure out the point. I could only glean a couple points from the text, and that one seemed to be the more consistent theme, of bringing up how much worse it is in other places.

 

[Bayoupiper]

And while we are on the subject.


Don't be surprised if you see the police using a camera to video you!





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[JNieman]

Don't be surprised if you see the police using a camera to video you!
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I'd be surprised if they didn't, as a rule, and I'd respect a cop that did so. Takes his job serious and knows the risks. I wouldn't blame an officer one bit if they had a shoulder/chest mounted camera or something like that.

 

[Coonie]

So the tl;dr of that is "It's better than being shot or beaten so suck it up." ?

Not at all. All of this controversy is making LE stops, (Every stop, if they had reason or not.) sound like JBT's asking for "Papers Please." . But what you may not see is the real reason that checkpoint was set up in the first place. Nobody wants to hear it or believe anything they already "know" as fact, but what if somebody with the dept. did research and found that that roadway/highway/street has shown to have a lot of drunken activity, during certain times on certain days. Would you then allow the police to attempt to prevent any more behavior by doing stops? Or should they just turn a blind eye and wait to clean up a mess?

I used the inner city/ghetto example because, that too, is a removal of your freedom to travel freely throughout the state. Some people could save hours a week by taking a direct route home through those neighborhoods, but know when they get stopped, it won't be by LE, and it won't only take 10-15 minutes of your time.

There are freedoms, and there are privileges. Which one is driving?

 

[JR1572]

You've said some crazy **** before.

Are you trying to go for a new record?





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LOL.

How does MCInfantry say it? That's right "ΜΟΡΟΝ ΛΑΒΙΑ"...

JR1572

 

[JNieman]

Your assertion for why they place them where they do may be valid in some areas, but I really doubt it's so honorable in all areas. Lafayette sure doesn't seem to follow that principle.

My baseless assumption (at least I admit that's what it is) is that they put them somewhere VERY VISIBLE and obvious place to placate a vocal minority.

I don't really understand the point of your ghetto statement or how it's related, so I'll just skip it. Maybe it's more appropriate for someone else's arguments, but I don't see it, and don't have much argument for it. I've never changed my driving habits to drive around anything unless it meant saving time or gas, so maybe I just can't relate.