Couldn't jail him so now those loser dirtbags are trying to assassinate him!

[AustinBR]

Trump survives assassination attempt at campaign rally, as it unfolded

Law enforcement officials are working to learn more about Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20-year-old who tried to assassinate former President Donald Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on Saturday.

apnews.com

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Local police officer encountered shooter before he fired towards Trump, AP sources say

Not long before shots rang out, rally goers noticed a man climbing to the top of a roof of a nearby building and warned local law enforcement, according to two law enforcement officials.
One officer climbed to the roof and encountered Crooks, who pointed his rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder and Crooks quickly took a shot toward former President Donald Trump, and that’s when the U.S. Secret Service counter snipers shot him, said the officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation."

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Maybe someone was assigned to cover the roof and they ****** up. This sounds a lot more likely...

If the local police aren't on the same radio channel as the USSS, which I can assume they're not, there is a lag in getting communication from the cops to the snipers/counter assault team/close protection detail. If there was quicker communication the close protection group would have pulled Trump off the stage before shots were fired.

Someone should go through the video to see how long between shots fired and his SS guys being on top of him. I'm guessing 2 seconds, but I don't have fancy video editors.

 

[Abby Normal]

The Dad that was murdered was protecting his family during the shooting.

 

[323MAR]

According to the experts, his position was OUTSIDE of the perimeter which is a load of Bovine fecal matter. 148 yards that’s a shot that could be made with a .22 rifle if practiced

I guess what they meant to say is that the commercial building the shooter perched from was outside of the venue. It was supposed to be within some part of the perimeter.
It is obvious to me that only the threat of handguns was anticipated inside the venue. The threat of a rifle from a rooftop doesn't appear to have been accounted for.
The reasons for this are very likely the points made by Advanced Laser.

 

[sil-40]

There is a Mt. Everest sized pile of speculation going on right now. Conspiracy theories are flying from everywhere towards everyone involved. The only guarantee about any of that is most of it will be wrong. Let’s let the dust settle and hope everyone can keep calm heads. We should be slow to attribute to malice that which can easily be explained by incompetance.

One certainty is that, whatever his motivation, it was insanity. Bloodshed and violence isn’t the answer and anyone who uses this as political points, whichever way it happens to go, is part of the problem and not part of the solution. Allowing this to further divide our population is to ignore a giant red warning flag about the direction we are heading as a country.

 

[falshooter]

Local police officer encountered shooter before he fired towards Trump, AP sources say

Not long before shots rang out, rally goers noticed a man climbing to the top of a roof of a nearby building and warned local law enforcement, according to two law enforcement officials.
One officer climbed to the roof and encountered Crooks, who pointed his rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder and Crooks quickly took a shot toward former President Donald Trump, and that’s when the U.S. Secret Service counter snipers shot him, said the officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation."

This is getting better by the minute.

 

[foz1359]

So...let's follow the discussion. Krotsman said "How the hell do you get an AR into what one would presume is (or should be) a pretty restricted area?" He has set the context, the restricted area. That's the area for the event that's restricted. A restricted area is not the same thing as a public area. So then Gumby Hunter said "According to the experts, his position was OUTSIDE of the perimeter which is a load of Bovine fecal matter. 148 yards that’s a shot that could be made with a .22 rifle if practiced." He's saying it's BS that the shooter was outside of the perimeter. What perimeter? Well, let's look at the context. That the restricted area. So, according to his reply, Gumby Hunter thinks is BS that the shooter was outside of the perimeter of the restricted area. Well, he was. All of the pictures support that. In fact, the shooter wasn't on the same property on which the rally was being held.

Clearly unclear but gets you a shiny green star for your enthusiastic participation. Thank you!

...and thank you for keeping this site up and running so we can participate as well!

 

[AdvancedLaser]

Trump survives assassination attempt at campaign rally, as it unfolded

Law enforcement officials are working to learn more about Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20-year-old who tried to assassinate former President Donald Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on Saturday.

apnews.com

"
Local police officer encountered shooter before he fired towards Trump, AP sources say

Not long before shots rang out, rally goers noticed a man climbing to the top of a roof of a nearby building and warned local law enforcement, according to two law enforcement officials.
One officer climbed to the roof and encountered Crooks, who pointed his rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder and Crooks quickly took a shot toward former President Donald Trump, and that’s when the U.S. Secret Service counter snipers shot him, said the officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation."

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Maybe someone was assigned to cover the roof and they ****** up. This sounds a lot more likely...

If the local police aren't on the same radio channel as the USSS, which I can assume they're not, there is a lag in getting communication from the cops to the snipers/counter assault team/close protection detail. If there was quicker communication the close protection group would have pulled Trump off the stage before shots were fired.

Someone should go through the video to see how long between shots fired and his SS guys being on top of him. I'm guessing 2 seconds, but I don't have fancy video editors.

There is prob a TOC established. Has persons on all coms represented. Usually agencies have a common channel, and then USSS has encrypted/trunked for their specific groups. You don't want a local cop screaming all over the channel when they are trying to give out patient triage info.

 

[thperez1972]

Clearly unclear but gets you a shiny green star for your enthusiastic participation. Thank you!

...and thank you for keeping this site up and running so we can participate as well!

It's unclear if you don't like it. It's actually pretty easy to follow along.

But anyway, gold stars from people like yourself is the joy we use to continue to volunteer our time to keeping the site running well.

 

[thperez1972]

There is prob a TOC established. Has persons on all coms represented. Usually agencies have a common channel, and then USSS has encrypted/trunked for their specific groups. You don't want a local cop screaming all over the channel when they are trying to give out patient triage info.

As outside of the perimeter security assets, we used one of the "SpecOps" channels. We didn't have any direct communication with security inside the perimeter.

 

[SVT Bansheeman]

The puppet masters don't want him dead. Just another planned "surprise".

 

[AustinBR]

It's unclear if you don't like it. It's actually pretty easy to follow along.

But anyway, gold stars from people like yourself is the joy we use to continue to volunteer our time to keeping the site running well.

Yet somehow I never get gold stars....or stars.

 

[AdvancedLaser]

Yet somehow I never get gold stars....or stars.

Cause you just say "You are wrong, too bad"
He says "you are wrong, let me break it down in granular, and moment by moment, detail as to why you are wrong."

 

[AustinBR]

Cause you just say "You are wrong, too bad"
He says "you are wrong, let me break it down in granular, and moment by moment, detail as to why you are wrong."

Yeah, he has a lot more time than I do lol

 

[thperez1972]

Cause you just say "You are wrong, too bad"
He says "you are wrong, let me break it down in granular, and moment by moment, detail as to why you are wrong."

I will acknowledge my ability to be a little verbose at times.

 

[Big H]

I’m surprised there wasn’t an agent on every roof top within a 1000 yards of the stage.

I am also---just not make sense to me!

 

[Magdump]

Pretty damning…

 

[chibajoe]

Pretty damning…

Clickbait. There were 2 CS teams, first returned shot was 16 seconds from the 2nd team (likely the kill shot). Pictured team did not have clear LOS to the shooter.

Something I suspected, but didn't want to say without some backup, is that the second volley of fire was from a different gun, possibly LE returning fire.

 

[Gator 45/70]

I'm thinking this lil shooter dude is Antifa, certainly fits the style.

 

[Bigchillin83]

 

[Bigchillin83]