Does anyone know how SSI works?
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Why can't Social "Security" be optional?
If you work for cash only you don't have to pay SS, federal, or state taxes either. But good luck with that.
B/C government, any government, has the only legal monopoly. It's the monopoly of force. You pay taxes b/c people thought it was OK for them to take a vote and then confiscate the money given to you for the use of your mind. When the products you used your mind and sweat to produce are taken by you by force than you're a slave to the government. Individual liberty has been destroyed in favor of the good of the whole. The good of the whole will determined at a later date.
To certain degree for any functional government to exist the people must give over some of their individual freedom to it. The founding father's knew this and created the constitution then the Bill of Rights. These were the first legal documents ever created that limited what a government could do to those it ruled. They wanted our government by design to almost constantly gridlocked to use the modern term.
Dave
If it was optional there would be nothing for you to get. None of us would do it. I understand you have a disability but think about what you are saying. You say you would never want to pay into but have already received the only positive it has to offer. Now think about how that makes the rest of us feel.
Ring a ding.
Living at home at 18, it's time to man up and pay rent. You're an adult. You're going to have bills one way or another. Best it's to Mom and Dad because that's going to be the best break you will ever find.
flamatrix99
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Wow what a POS I am.. I never paid rent to my parents. Cassie lived at home til we got married when she was 28 and never paid rent either. I never have know parents that charge thier kids rent.
I don't pay rent to my parents. Is being in school an exception?I'll make an early exception to say that I do pay bills, and I see that it has caused confusion. Sorry to upset you all, that was not my goal. My question was answered, so that's that. Someone had to know, and did know enough that to point me in the direction somewhat. I wish that the whole thing would get revised, and the guys who wake up at the crack of noon to go to the government office be expelled. I'm 18, and have no idea how to manage my account, or how it works, or how to talk to the case worker. THAT was what I wanted to know. My venting was unnecessary; best to for it now to go to mom. Sorry for the frustration. See ya'll.
Didn't call anyone a POS. *double checks* Nope. Sure didn't. I didn't pay rent, they never asked. But I don't think any of us would have whined about "that's our money" when it came down to it either.
Chad, students living at home get a pass IMO. Look I'm not knocking people who receive help from their parents but the OP didn't seem to understand living at home isn't a free ride. At least have the decency not to be so blatantly selfish over it.
I understand. At first I thought you were saying you thought once reaching 18 people living with their parents should all pay rent. But in fact you were probably saying something closer to the lines of his Mom should get the check since she provides probably more than that checks value in support to him (bills, roof, food). If so, I agree!
I'm not sure the extent of your disability, but if things such as clothing, toiletries, fun things, car note/insurance was coming out of it then I take back everything I said. Because deep down I don't believe in cutting my kids off when they reach maturity. Right now I'm starting to look towards how we will be able to help my daughter acquire her first home in 8-10 years if that's what she wants. If your personal bills are coming out of it then you should have what's left.... Within reason.
But.... If I'm living at home, using the electricity or maybe a cell phone on Moms account, or grocery bills, and assuming my needs are met then I'm not going to quibble over something that isn't worth it to me. How tight are her bills on top of supporting you? Is she living paycheck to paycheck, on a budget or is she visiting the local casino. Obviously that also makes a difference. If it is an actual unjust money issue here, my apologies. But your original comment had the that's my money to do with as I pleased vibe.
A huge +1 for this. You want to see some REAL abuse? Check out WIC! That one blew me away working for a few days there during clinical.
Yes, and it's a real bitch at his income level, too.
I do want to say this. I do not know the op's situation. But I have seen parents abuse their childrens welfare/ssi/child support checks over the last few years of my life. I am young, yes, but I have seen things that are truly wrong. Parents that use their children more than they love them. I have had several friends who moved out of their parents house and the only time they ever got a call was when their mom needed money, never just to say hi. The op said his mom told him not to call! first red flag. Why couldn't he call get it put in his name and instead of his mom giving him very little, he gets the actual bills pay's them and keeps the rest. In my opinion it would be a step towards independence for the op. He is in college from previous threads I have read. He is trying I give him that. Hopefully he will complete college get off of ssi and support himself. But he needs responsiblity now. Otherwise when he does get a job it will be difficult for him to learn to live within his budget. His mother should realize that this is a step towards letting her child grow up. Their needs to be guidelines, she doesnt need to just let him get the check and do as he wishes. But I do agree with him getting it and learning to balance a budget. I had everything handed to me and came form a well off family. When I got out on my own I had no idea what a budget was. It was very difficult the first few months. My parents helped me the first month when I came up short and told me to get it straight. The second I screwed up again, was forced to sell things I did not want to. The third month I realized it was time to make out a budget and live within my means. I sat down with my mom and she wrote it all out for me, and its worked pretty well ever since. I think his mom needs to give him the check and the bills she pays with it at the same time, teach him how to budget, and how to support himself. I wish him the best of luck in school, and I hope he makes it out great can get a job, and get off ssi. But I think at the moment he and his family truly need it. People like 762nato are the ones who make me feel ok about paying the high taxes I do. I can think to myslef I supported his family this month, and paid for his schooling. And not worry about the hood rat on the southside with ten chilren. Thats who you should be angry at not the guy going to school trying to better himself.
rant off, Cameron
rant off, Cameron
No kidding. What ever happened to children leaving their parents and making their own way. That was one part of the Bible I agree with.
I know the Op's young and disabled, Don't have enough information from the Op to judge, apparently he says his questions have been answered. I hope if he does get on his feet he will remember the gift he was given and pay it forward.
Kind of off topic, but I've been noticing a trend that is starting to take off. Seems like a few families are starting to build these "family communes" as I liketo call it. Example... Joe turns 18 and wants his own place. Mom and dad haul a trailer in on their land and he now lives there. His brother and sister do the same thing. They never move our OR build a house on thaeir parents land. Pretty soon all of the sibblings have their trailers/houses dotted across the land. Maybe its just me, but I have no interest living that close to my parents, even if it is "free".
