KnightWolf09
Well-Known Member
I guess not
entering gun free zone to save lives
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I agree but what if that armed citizen could have saved your brass, then I believe its a diferent story and a diferent tune on the song, no disrespect either from a wise Armed Citizen
I agree.
I was trying to comment on how Nothing is going to ensure that you are immediately recognized as a GG by the LEO, or anyone else for that matter.
Heck, in such a situation, I'm not Completely trusting any fully uniformed, convincingly dressed, shiny badged LEOs that show up.
If you go into the situation knowing that, you have a much better chance at not being shot by any other GGs.
Sorry, that I didn't make that more clear.
I'm not LEO, by the way. But I do play one on internet forums sometimes!
Totally! And he won't take one second to peruse or believe your ID or badge until after the situation is in control.
Do LEOs a favor and kill all the BGs before they arrive. Then store your gun safely, raise your hands, smile and comply.
Yes, CC the gun from your vehicle to the possible shooting event.
If it is no big deal then all anyone saw is you get all excited about nothing. ("Concealed" carry)
Well, watching "Blackhawk Down" in school, even by the teachers, isn't what I'd consider "nothing". That's why I homeschool.
...I digress...You then return to your car and CP....**** your pants. No one has to know about that either.
CP = Concealed Pissing 
PS. I'm not too concerned about Bubba. I killed him the last time he tried to kill innocent children.
I don't know about everybody violating the zone but I sure have!
I used to live within 1000' of a school not to mention the bus firearm free zones! I could barely breathe without breaking the law!
How about we send all legislators on holiday? Give them all an entire year off with pay? After that, we allow them back to "work" and only allow them to remove laws that are already there and not make any new ones.
Yes, my idea could go awry...but look what we have now!!!
CloudStrife
Why so serious?
Unfortunately, the "average joe" has very little morality.
I like to refer back to the saying "Half of everyone is below average." Considering what average is today, that's awfully disappointing and scary.
Mr_Willson
rifleman
they might rule it as vigilantism
I agree with Teddy's assessment from the first page.
I'm not putting my ass on the line to save people I don't know from a threat that doesn't directly affect me. I'm not a superhero.
My first job is to take care of me, after that is accomplished if I can help others with compromising my job I may offer assistance. Putting myself in danger contradicts my job.
I'm not putting my ass on the line to save people I don't know from a threat that doesn't directly affect me. I'm not a superhero.
My first job is to take care of me, after that is accomplished if I can help others with compromising my job I may offer assistance. Putting myself in danger contradicts my job.
When we got our permits years ago, we made a big deal about not being police and not getting involved in others' problems.
BUT, SOON AFTERWARDS,my daughter's neighbor was out jogging in the neighboorhood and was kidnapped off the street and presumably raped/murdered. Body never found. Her attack was witnessed by several neighbors and by-passers, but was presumed to be a "domestic dispute" and no-one stopped to help.
What to do? It is hard to say; but, how about stopping, drawing, pointing exposed weapon straight down or straight up and inquiring loudly?
BUT, SOON AFTERWARDS,my daughter's neighbor was out jogging in the neighboorhood and was kidnapped off the street and presumably raped/murdered. Body never found. Her attack was witnessed by several neighbors and by-passers, but was presumed to be a "domestic dispute" and no-one stopped to help.
What to do? It is hard to say; but, how about stopping, drawing, pointing exposed weapon straight down or straight up and inquiring loudly?
I was going to say that I respectfully disagree with both of you, but I don't think we are looking at the same picture...
From your referrence to putting it on the line for people you don't know, can we infer that you would put it on the line for people you do know???
Maybe you are totally alone in the world - have no friends or relatives (who would likely have children, relatives and friends) - maybe you really care only for yourself and no one else...fine with me...but you infer by your post that you might care enough if you knew someone involved....so...
Are you really opposed to going over there to check and see if someone you know is involved? Or, are you okay with finding out later that your niece was raped and murdered while you drove away? Maybe you didn't recognize the little innocent girl you could have saved so you walked away...is that right?
If you are okay with what you haven't considered yet, I'll accept that. I am not trying to push my beliefs on anyone. I'm only pointing out the kinks in your armor to help you prepare before the battle.
Tragedies are prevented every day by people like you and I who are not "superheros". Just average guys who thought it through ahead of time, like we are doing now, and made a choice.
I pray that we make the right choice at the right time.
Good point...kind of like my last thread?
Have you been exposed to the SUL position for holding your pistol in such a situation. If not, look it up. I think it might be just the thing for the situation you described. Of course, just gripping your gun in the holster puts you less than a second from a hole in the BGs head.
If anyone has a problem with you brandishing a weapon in such a way during a similar incident, even if it turns out to be nothing, I'll testify on your behalf, if it comes to that...and at my own expense!
Sorry if I come across too strong for y'all. I give no quarter to people who victimize the innocent and helpless and I'm sure it shows in my posts.
Brass ovaries, dear.
Didn't read all the post so I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but in '97 in Mississippi, a student was shooting up his high school, and a vice principal ran out to his car to get his gun. He went back inside and shot the teen and killed him right before he went into a classroom. The vice principal was prosecuted and found guilty of having a firearm in a gun free zone.
Keep in mind, this was BEFORE Columbine and VT and the other big school shootings where all nut bags started screaming "noooo gunsssssss!"
Keep in mind, this was BEFORE Columbine and VT and the other big school shootings where all nut bags started screaming "noooo gunsssssss!"
charliepapa
Clandestine Sciuridae
And if he's worth his salt, he took it on the chin and he'd do it the same way all over again. I think he should have been given a hero's parade and instead he got spanked. Ungrateful bastards.
I'd do it even if I knew ahead of time I'd get spanked. We all have to make daily determinations as to the lesser evil. He did the right thing and I commend him for it.
charliepapa
Clandestine Sciuridae
And if he's worth his salt, he took it on the chin and he'd do it the same way all over again. I think he should have been given a hero's parade and instead he got spanked. Ungrateful bastards.
+1
