Iraq Redux Part Deux v. ISIL

[Hitman]

In my opinion this is a prudent use of force.

Could be for sure.

In the past it seems when Marines are sent to the Embassy,
it's soon to be evacuated which means SHTF.

I wonder if they know something we don't?
or if like you said, this is a show of force.

Either way I'll be watching this very closely.

The Iraqi government and the Shia militias are about to run into this problem. Just 50 miles to the west of Baghdad is the city of Fallujah, where a coalition of Sunni tribes and ISIS militants have held sway since January. There appears to be sporadic fighting in villages near the city, but no offensive has emerged there on the scale which seized Mosul in the north.

*It may be that Sunni militant forces in Anbar were so badly beaten up in the fighting with the ISF around Fallujah and Ramadi that they are not capable of mounting such an attack. Alternatively, they may be preparing to do precisely that.*

 

[Hitman]

Understanding and tying together the different factions
and how they all fit together. Especially from the Al-Nusra Front to the ISIL.

*Sometimes, an invasive species is introduced to eradicate another species
which is causing havoc to a particular ecosystem*

Chinese Carp anyone?

The (easy)fall of Mosul, no accident...

But, he(‘Izzaat Ibraaheem Al-Douri Saddam’s [former- right-hand man')
did not have the support structure needed to oust Al-Maliki, so,
he found an odd alliance in ISIS through the offices of Erdoghan and Bandar.
Our readers should note that the taking of Mosul was accomplished by former Iraqi Ba’athist officers
suspiciously abandoning their posts and leaving a 52,000 man military force without any leadership
thereby forcing a complete collapse of the city’s defenses.
The planning and collaboration cannot be coincidental.

With ISIS allied now with Saddam’s remnant Ba’ath,
it’s easy to see why the Saudis might be terrified.
It was the Saddamist Ba’athis who invaded Kuwait.
It was Al-Douri and Taahaa Yaaseen Ramadhaan who lobbed pieces of lettuce at the Kuwaiti delegate
during the Iraqi-Kuwaiti talks before the invasion that was prompted by Kuwait’s insistence
on being repaid for moneys advanced to the Iraqi army for the war against Khomeini’s Iran.
If you want to know why Bandar fell out of favor, this is one of the reasons.

And now Erdoghan has to deal with a real reversal of fortune.
His beloved Nusra(Al-Nusra) organization is being quickly snuffed out
by ISIS and the Syrian Army. Right? …………

Enter Iran ... Read the Entire Article Here

 

[Peacemaker]

It always strikes me as an odd when someone who has been there and met these people is corrected about who they are by someone who hasn't.

I'm not concerned by what strikes you odd. .
those people want to dominate. It's their way or no way. I don't need to have been there to know that. People can sugar coat it all they want.. They want to rule the world and they want their ideology to be the law of the land plain and simple. They will never accept peace until you and I and everyone like us is destroyed.

 

[Hitman]

I'm not concerned by what strikes you odd. .
those people want to dominate. It's their way or no way.
I don't need to have been there to know that. People can sugar coat it all they want..
They want to rule the world and they want their ideology to be the law of the land plain and simple.
They will never accept peace until you and I and everyone like us is destroyed.

Who is they? and those people?

What is (their ideology)?

You should speak less in general and more frank
so we know WHAT you're talking about.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Could be for sure.

In the past it seems when Marines are sent to the Embassy,
it's soon to be evacuated which means SHTF.

I wonder if they know something we don't?
or if like you said, this is a show of force.

Either way I'll be watching this very closely.

It gives you the force on hand to Evac if you need to but also provide real security if you decide to stay. It also sends the message that if a MEB can arrive in the night a MEF can as well.

 

[Peacemaker]

Who is they? and those people?

What is (their ideology)?

You should speak less in general and more frank
so we know WHAT you're talking about.

I will.. Sunni and Shiites.. The bitter dispute of Islam. The political ideology of Islam is to conquer the world and enforce sharia which is the body of Islamic law.. The ultimate goal is global caliphate.. Anyone that would deny that is just not being realistic..

Not trying to argue with anyone and I'm sure none of the root huggers will agree.. No big deal.

 

[Hitman]

I will.. Sunni and Shiites.. The bitter dispute of Islam. The political ideology of Islam is to conquer the world and enforce sharia which is the body of Islamic law.. The ultimate goal is global caliphate.. Anyone that would deny that is just not being realistic..

But Doc wasn't talking about "them".

 

[Jack]

But Doc wasn't talking about "them".

And there it is.

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I will.. Sunni and Shiites.. The bitter dispute of Islam. The political ideology of Islam is to conquer the world and enforce sharia which is the body of Islamic law.. The ultimate goal is global caliphate.. Anyone that would deny that is just not being realistic..

Not trying to argue with anyone and I'm sure none of the root huggers will agree.. No big deal.

Don't start with the name calling. You're an adult, act like it.

 

[Peacemaker]

But Doc wasn't talking about "them".

Well.. whom then was he referring would settle down if they were bathed in the cool comforts of western civilization?

 

[Hitman]

Well.. whom then was he referring would settle down if they were bathed in the cool comforts of western civilization?

Iraqi citizens.

Here it is in a possibly more easier understood format.

Line by Line

Food water and electricity.
Establishing micro governance/micro grants and business loans.
Jump starting local economy.
Getting children off the streets and back into schools,
while making workin for Al Qaeda's pay roll for putting bombs in the road to harm innocents
look less lucrative and more asinine.

Giving LNs the basic necessities of life and the overall feeling of self sustainment.
Reestablishing the flame deep inside for pride of country,
and overlooking the Mohammed was a prophet vs Mohammad was the voice of God ordeal
commonly disagreed upon by Sunni vs Shiites.
I honestly think the country separating into two smaller countries
: Shiite and Sunni respectively would be best.

Just my .02

 

[Peacemaker]

And there it is.

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I offered a reply to a post that I didn't agree with, and as is usual it's dissected to the tenth degree.



Don't start with the name calling. You're an adult, act like it.

Yes mommy..

 

[Hitman]

I offered a reply to a post that I didn't agree with,
and as is usual it's dissected to the tenth degree.

You've received no different treatment
than you've given.

You dissected Docs post
and then added a sort red herring.

 

[Peacemaker]

You've received no different treatment
than you've given.

You dissected Docs post
and then added a sort red herring.

My apologies. Was not my intention.

 

[Jack]

Oh, I see it. Nevermind.

Your post wasn't dissected to any degree. Your post grossly over simplified a situation that you don't understand. When called on it you lashed out. You didn't get any different treatment than anyone else here, the only difference was your reaction.

 

[Hitman]

My apologies. Was not my intention.

Fair enough.

 

[Peacemaker]

Oh, I see it. Nevermind.

Your post wasn't dissected to any degree. Your post grossly over simplified a situation that you don't understand. When called on it you lashed out. You didn't get any different treatment than anyone else here, the only difference was your reaction.

you just can't help yourself can you?

 

[Emperor]

What ever became of this **** stirring douche? He sure had a lot to say before the US reparations money started rolling in. Did he get his, and jet away for permanent R&R?

 

[Hitman]

What ever became of this **** stirring douche? He sure had a lot to say before the US reparations money started rolling in. Did he get his, and jet away for permanent R&R?

According to my intel, he's still very important and powerful with lots of folks under him.
Plans a Parade through Iraq next weekend.
http://www.abna.ir/english/service/middle-east-west-asia/archive/2014/06/15/616118/story.html

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

What ever became of this **** stirring douche? He sure had a lot to say before the US reparations money started rolling in. Did he get his, and jet away for permanent R&R?

He's still there. He isn't Iran's favorite and I'm sure he has been told to cool his jets as to not upstage their boy Maliki. His Maadi Militia is definitely in play though.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Rattler:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/16/u-s-doesn-t-know-who-to-hit-in-iraq.html