New Law on Pistol Attachments.

[MOTOR51]

i agree i think they are gonna fall in the rabbit whole they are tryin to dig....not to mention imports, you cant go 10+ years and 30 million pistols sold and come around in 2023 and say you are now a felon if you own them after you approved us having them lol.... that dog dont hunt, it will take time, but i think sombody will be reminded who they work for, and might if anything boost this coming up election..

Wait till I tell them you have tactical black tennis balls.


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[jdindadell]

I think the ATF has taken too big a bite this time and they’re gonna choke on this $hit sammich. Might not be tomorrow or even next month, but they’re giving Congress and the Supreme Court all the ammo they need to slap them back into reality. I believe that it’s going to have to happen. No faction of government ever sits idly by while another makes such a gross power grab and steps on toes. These regulatory agencies are really going for broke lately. I think these times will be known as the age of rogue regulation. Somebody definitely needs to answer.

100% agree with you on the "rogue regulation". Starting to feel like they are "asking for forgiveness rather than ask for permission". Also seems like they plan to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. The weird stuff they did on the 80% lowers, waiting till 2 days before the rule went into effect and then changed it up, that is just odd, and should not be allowed. They need to be heavily overhauled, congress and the courts need to reign them in hard on all of these "laws" that are being made, absent of actual legislation.

 

[jdindadell]

Wait till I tell them you have tactical black tennis balls.


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Wait, he has black balls....

 

[Jstudz220]

Please quit regurgitating what you hear from other people. It specifically addresses this in the ruling. You can definitely put a regular stock on after approval.


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No it actually clearly states you can not. The tax stamp is for a braced pistol and braced pistol only, not an sbr.

 

[thperez1972]

No it actually clearly states you can not. The tax stamp is for a braced pistol and braced pistol only, not an sbr.

It would appear the ATF may disagree with your interpretation of the ATF's new rule. From FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS FOR FINAL RULE 2021-08F:

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/docs/undefined/faqfinalrule2021r-08f-correctedpdf/download

 

[MOTOR51]

No it actually clearly states you can not. The tax stamp is for a braced pistol and braced pistol only, not an sbr.

Why do you continue to argue with me ? Read this crap for yourself and quit spreading crap someone told you. I don’t have a reason to lie and I don’t spread rumors. Here you go:

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[machinedrummer]

I think it’s a federal offense to refer to AFT scripture as crap. Might want to tone it down.

 

[MOTOR51]

I think it’s a federal offense to refer to AFT scripture as crap. Might want to tone it down.

You are probably right


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[machinedrummer]

Lol

 

[GunRelated]

"brace"

 

[AustinBR]

Why do you continue to argue with me ? Read this crap for yourself and quit spreading crap someone told you. I don’t have a reason to lie and I don’t spread rumors. Here you go:

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Wow, there you go again photoshopping ATF website pictures...

 

[Redfish504]

New rule on pistol attachments to boost gun safety, U.S. Justice Department says

The problem that I have is no matter what you do if you comply you’re screwed because you won’t get processed in time and if you don’t you’re screwed and if you have a kit pistol or a import pistol you are screwed no matter what so no matter what you have to get rid of it and for anybody that files for tax stamp if it isn’t processed in 88 days you are automatically banned and flagged from ever applying for anything again

 

[Redfish504]

New rule on pistol attachments to boost gun safety, U.S. Justice Department says

And also why if the atf can’t make laws then why comply anyway they arrest you sue the **** out of them for violating you constitutional right since only congress can make laws and it states the laws of the United States of America are the only offense for which one can be tried and prosecuted for so **** them

 

[Redfish504]

In looking further, it seems like they view any ar or ak style weapon with a brace to be an sbr. But they have an faq with some interesting answers.







I've been thinking about registering a couple of sbr's anyway. I can save myself some money.

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/docs/undefined/faqfinalrule2021r-08f-correctedpdf/download

Don’t because if you are not approved in 88 days you will be flagged for ever

 

[Redfish504]

New rule on pistol attachments to boost gun safety, U.S. Justice Department says

If you have an AR pistol with a stabilizing brace and say to yourself, "oh well, I'll just take advantage of the not having to pay $200 and apply to have it registered as an SBR," warning.
Allegedly NOW there is a new provision that if the request is not approved within 88 days it will be considered denied, and ATF could take enforcement action, like prosecution and confiscation. (this allegedly from an ATF agent at the SHOT show) What the heck?

This why no matter what we are ****** because there is no way that a process that already takes about 3months will be done before 88 days with 3-40mil people applying

 

[MOTOR51]

If you have an AR pistol with a stabilizing brace and say to yourself, "oh well, I'll just take advantage of the not having to pay $200 and apply to have it registered as an SBR," warning.
Allegedly NOW there is a new provision that if the request is not approved within 88 days it will be considered denied, and ATF could take enforcement action, like prosecution and confiscation. (this allegedly from an ATF agent at the SHOT show) What the heck?

This why no matter what we are ****** because there is no way that a process that already takes about 3months will be done before 88 days with 3-40mil people applying

The ole “Shot Show ATF Agent” at it again. Has anyone ever identified this guy yet?


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[MOTOR51]

The problem that I have is no matter what you do if you comply you’re screwed because you won’t get processed in time and if you don’t you’re screwed and if you have a kit pistol or a import pistol you are screwed no matter what so no matter what you have to get rid of it and for anybody that files for tax stamp if it isn’t processed in 88 days you are automatically banned and flagged from ever applying for anything again

Please tell me a valid source of this information. Please don’t say it’s a YouTube video. Why would they ban you for life?


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[Bigchillin83]

starts@ 1:05 ,explains it pretty good, from the atf deputy attorney

says in here the atf deputy attorney was present at shot shot to answer questions

here's your huckleberry

Deputy Attorney General Lisa O. Monaco

Deputy Attorney General Lisa O. Monaco Delivers Remarks at the ATF Academy Graduation

www.justice.gov

 

[Redfish504]

Please tell me a valid source of this information. Please don’t say it’s a YouTube video. Why would they ban you for life?


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Because a denial is a automatic ban and if you’re not approved within 88 days it is considered a denial

 

[Redfish504]

https://www.taurusarmed.net/threads/88-day-limit-discovered-in-new-atf-pistol-brace-rule-for-approval.443173/