Welfare; Like Feeding strays .....

[CloudStrife]

You feel good about yourself? Stealing other peoples money to pay for social programs?

A reasonable tax, voted on by the majority, is not stealing. Besides, you suggested we round them up and let them die. You didn't suggest an alternative means of aid.

 

[my-rifle]

...and he is exactly right. The point is that by giving hand-outs, we're rewarding bad behavior. I hope the animal analogy does not cause people to associate this man with hate rather than logic.

There's a reason people associate him with hate rather than logic.

 

[CloudStrife]

There's a reason people associate him with hate rather than logic.

Like what? Did he say hateful things in the past?

 

[Mjolnir]

we should do away with welfare. for those who really do need help, there are charities that can step up. a private interprise will do a much better job at weeding out the individuals who are looking for a hand up vs a hand out. as long as welfare exists politicians will continue to use our money to buy votes. it must end!

Well, then refund ALL of my taxes. What good is gov't if it's not to protect those who for whatever reasons cannot protect themselves?

Charitable foundations are hurting because, "Voila!" we have record unemployment due to NAFTA and other "binding" agreements made since Hillbilly Clinton. So that dog won't hunt.

I agree with him on several points: kids having kids and I despise the subculture that seems systemic in our welfare state for Whites, Blacks & Hispanics.

Many people are okay giving billions to Israel, Egypt, factions in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq but apparently have no love for their own. That's really freakin' odd and quite sad.

 

[Geardo]

A reasonable tax, voted on by the majority, is not stealing. Besides, you suggested we round them up and let them die. You didn't suggest an alternative means of aid.

No, that is simply mob rule, just because the majority wants to steal my money, doesn't make it right. Social spending is unconstitutional.

 

[CloudStrife]

No, that is simply mob rule, just because the majority wants to steal my money, doesn't make it right. Social spending is unconstitutional.

Certain taxes are necessary for a gov't to function. And it makes good sense (other than being the moral thing to do) to help those who can't help themselves. Say instead they family goes broke trying to help them. They can't pay bills, so they lose their house/car/etc. Now we have another family, which would be working, in poverty and not contributing to society by no fault of their own. Or, for another scenario, the person might have a disability that can be fixed. If they can't afford the medical bills themselves (we're assuming the person works and isn't a bump on a log) then by not helping them, we prevent a person from re-entering the work force.

Also, mob rule is something disordered and unreasonable. My opinion on this matter, like that of many others, is well thought out on an individual basis, therefore we aren't a mob.

 

[Ben Segrest]

Many people are okay giving billions to Israel, Egypt, factions in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq but apparently have no love for their own. That's really freakin' odd and quite sad.

Foreign aid is bulls**t, too.

 

[W1nds0rF0x]

No, that is simply mob rule, just because the majority wants to steal my money, doesn't make it right. Social spending is unconstitutional.

It's a shame that making really stupid remarks about what is or is not Constitutional is not unconstitutional.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

It's a shame that making really stupid remarks about what is or is not Constitutional is not unconstitutional.

lol

LA or US

 

[Geardo]

A reasonable tax, voted on by the majority, is not stealing. Besides, you suggested we round them up and let them die. You didn't suggest an alternative means of aid.

You need to watch the video in this thread

http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30918

 

[henry]

where's My Check?

 

[CloudStrife]

You need to watch the video in this thread

http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30918

Let me rephrase. Representatives voted in by the majority.

 

[my-rifle]

You need to watch the video in this thread

http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30918

The guy who produced that video needs to go back to school. Everything sounds great, but that's the nature of specious arguments. They sound great. They feel great. They are however wrong.

The fundamental flaw in the guy's arguments is how he justifies calling an actual government one thing or another. That's why arguments of this kind can never be resolved. People just redefine reality to fit what they want it to be.

 

[Geardo]

The guy who produced that video needs to go back to school. Everything sounds great, but that's the nature of specious arguments. They sound great. They feel great. They are however wrong.

The fundamental flaw in the guy's arguments is how he justifies calling an actual government one thing or another. That's why arguments of this kind can never be resolved. People just redefine reality to fit what they want it to be.

Sounds like you can't face reality.

 

[my-rifle]

Sounds like you can't face reality.

You sound like you have hostility issues. You should see a doctor about that.

 

[Geardo]

You sound like you have hostility issues. You should see a doctor about that.

I hate doctors, and more people need to hate freeloaders, then we wouldn't have this problem!

 

[CEHollier]

To note. I really did not feel like getting out of bed this morning. I had to force myself out and up to go to work. Somewhere freeloaders living off of my wages will remain in their warm toasty beds as I drive to work and start work this morning. My taxes will pay for the roof over their head, the electricity keeping them warm, the food in their stomachs, and their illegitimate childrens needs. The system should stop rewarding bad behavior.

 

[charliepapa]

To note. I really did not feel like getting out of bed this morning. I had to force myself out and up to go to work. Somewhere freeloaders living off of my wages will remain in their warm toasty beds as I drive to work and start work this morning. My taxes will pay for the roof over their head, the electricity keeping them warm, the food in their stomachs, and their illegitimate childrens needs. The system should stop rewarding bad behavior.

TRUE. If we could even start to curtail or discourage this we'd eventually be in good shape again.

That and reverse the feel-good politics that have bred political-correctness and the apologetic stance our *leaders* have taken abroad.

 

[CEHollier]

TRUE. If we could even start to curtail or discourage this we'd eventually be in good shape again.

That and reverse the feel-good politics that have bred political-correctness and the apologetic stance our *leaders* have taken abroad.

The democratic party is breeding their voting block using our tax dollars to support it. One illegitimate prison bound child at a time.

 

[Tx_oil]

The democratic party is breeding their voting block using our tax dollars to support it. One illegitimate prison bound child at a time.

The argument, distilled and crystallized. +1000