Exactly! What the hell are people smoking around here? Maybe everyone (including you and me) are just being facetious.
But hell, what can I expect from a thread discussing the "coniscation." NO GUNS WERE CONISCATED.
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Exactly! What the hell are people smoking around here? Maybe everyone (including you and me) are just being facetious.
But hell, what can I expect from a thread discussing the "coniscation." NO GUNS WERE CONISCATED.
You must be a lawyer. Do you practice criminal law?
JR1572
Well FWIW, precisely what he said was 'No one will be able to be armed; we will take all guns.'
Now unless that's some sort of "code talk", I'm not sure what else he could have meant.
So I will believe that was his INTENT- regardless of whether he actually was able to pull it off, or not.
Thats what I also remember. I never heard about the NG taking guns. It was the NOPD...and it was widely reported on. Now...did I witness it firsthand.. NO
But I am pretty sure that the NOPD did it to a few people. In fact...I think they even arrested a lawyer at his house on St Charles Avenue. His name was O'Dwyer. And he has BEEN REAL VOCAL.
They even threw him in the temp jail for a few days. And from what I remember...most of it began over the NOPD taking his shotgun. He recited the law...and how he was within his rights to have a shotgun and stay in his home which was not flooded. . They said F you...and arrested him.
Police State Comes to New Orleans
A Louisiana Manual for Emasculating the Constitution
Eighty percent of New Orleans was inundated by the flood waters that washed over its streets in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and forced affected residents to flee. Those with properties on higher ground had other options. The more affluent were able to contract with Blackwater and Shin Bet mercenaries to protect their valuable assets while they complied with Mayor Nagin's evacuation orders. There were others, however, on high ground who chose to remain and protect their homes by themselves. Some of these holdouts resisted forced evacuation with little consequence, whereas others were singled out for particularly harsh treatment. New Orleans attorney Ashton R. O'Dwyer Jr. was among the latter.
See the entire article.
http://www.tulanelink.com/stories/o'dwyer_10a.htm
A Louisiana Manual for Emasculating the Constitution
Eighty percent of New Orleans was inundated by the flood waters that washed over its streets in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and forced affected residents to flee. Those with properties on higher ground had other options. The more affluent were able to contract with Blackwater and Shin Bet mercenaries to protect their valuable assets while they complied with Mayor Nagin's evacuation orders. There were others, however, on high ground who chose to remain and protect their homes by themselves. Some of these holdouts resisted forced evacuation with little consequence, whereas others were singled out for particularly harsh treatment. New Orleans attorney Ashton R. O'Dwyer Jr. was among the latter.
See the entire article.
http://www.tulanelink.com/stories/o'dwyer_10a.htm
I was down there for 4 months with the LANG and I can understand how responding personnel may have acted in ignorance of local laws and unfortunately constitutional rights that they should have known. There was not much leadership or guidance at the time and those whom we were looking to for answers were clueless. Our state Infantry Combat Team was just returning from Iraq so we were short their manpower, training and experience which may of helped our presence and response effort. Bottom line Katrina was a great learning tool in all aspects.
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Thoise articles really make my point for me. Did you read them? They're nothing but LaPierre making unsubstantiated claims. And the legal ruling simply made it illegal for police to take weapons from people who legally own and carry them. It does not say that those crimes had actually occurred. This is why it's so important to learn to read critically, and not accept the implications of a published piece without listening to what it actually says.
As others have stated previously in this thread, what more than likely happened is that several citizens legally carrying weapons were disarmed by authorities who had no rights to do so. This and the teams going into abandoned building to remove dangerous materials for the demolition teams then were repeated over and over an over through the media and spun up into "mass confiscations". What it was made to sound like was that people in their houses or on the street had their guns taken away and never returned. From my investigations, though it may have happened it would have been pretty rare. You have to remember - the world was coming apart, and the law enforcement was outnumbered and inexperienced when it came to dealing with a catastrophe on this scale.
I was in New Orleans the day after and we were encouraged to carry and defend ourselves with lethal force if we felt our lives were in immediate danger. I never witnessed any confiscations and we were picking up NOLA PD all day and giving them rides across downtown in the back of our Dodge Ram. I was a civilian at the time.
I really don't think it was in the thousands. I do know that it happened to a few people.
Furthermore...If it happens to you...then its a big deal IMO. Ashton O'Dwyer was totally screwed by the system. Yes...the man probably drinks more than he should. And he probably was a little tipsy during Katrina.
That said...He was totally screwed and ended up getting thrown in jail for 3 days because he was on his property with a shotgun and ran his mouth off on national news. I have no doubt that he probably got very vocal with the cops. Yet...the facts remain that he was on his property....and ordered to give up his gun and evacuate.
He refused. He was arrested and spent 3 days in jail.
So....IMO...Even if it happens to 1 person. Its just wrong and unacceptable.
Sounds like something Brannon would say 
Katrina Gun Coniscation
It would be a best seller in the "short stories" category.
JR1572
It would be a best seller in the "short stories" category.
JR1572
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I prefer non-fiction, myself. If short statements count for anything, the statement made by the then-Chief of Police at 01:11 in the video below should have been disturbing to anyone who says they believe in the Second Amendment.
I for one am glad that he was removed from his position. This cannot be tolerated from public officials. Period.
That's one of them! Good find, Heat!
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